In this exclusive double interview, we speak with Andrew Spiegelman (Head of Data & Analytics, Service NSW) and Alex Young (Head of Innovation, Strategy & Growth, Australian Red Cross Lifeblood) about how they're approaching automation and agentic AI inside high-accountability, high-stakes environments.

Together, they offer real-world insight into:

• Why automation succeeds when it solves problems, not when it chases headlines
• The hidden costs of AI implementation (hint: it’s not just the tech)
• Balancing innovation with privacy, security, and ethical oversight
• The role of “data labour” in making automation actually work
• What makes a vendor credible, and what makes them lose the room

Whether you're navigating automation in government, healthcare, or a regulated industry, these leaders share practical strategies, hard-won lessons, and the questions every organisation should be asking before investing in AI.

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